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    Posted: December-01-2004 at 1:05pm

CHECK THIS OUT:
http://www.simulators.dk/debat/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1654

Sorry it isn't a 72-500...

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nice shots. Interesting, that ATR is equipped with a bendix/king KLN 90B instead of the FMC.
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Just like the simulator we flew in Toulouse. No FMC in that one either.

Hmmmmm.... how the heck can they fly the plane without an FMC??

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Nice spotting Guitar_player!! I didn't see that the first time I looked at these pictures.

Nice pix by the way!!

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Lou, i am sure they are just using dead reckoning . After all that's a real man's way flying .
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I don't see much difference between the GPS and FMC.  I realize they're very different in many ways, but as far as waypoints go they seem the same.  Punch in your route and go!
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The FMC is stated in the manuals as driven only by a GPS anyway, so its simply a different user interface.  Only a guess, but I would think they introduced the CDU on the 72-500.

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Meanwhile the simulators in Toulouse were fitted with FMCs. I actually flew on one with FMC back in July.

As far as I know, the KLN90B is the default navigation instrument for all models. The HT9100 is just an option.
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After looking back at the pics online of ATRs, it seems that some of them have regular GPS devices.
Orlaam, FMC stands for flight management computer, which means it's not only for navigation. An FMC includes a GPS receiver(s) and is only part of its functionality. It's not only used for navigation but for flight planning (includes estimated air time, fuel usage, climb and descent management....) and links to the a/p for vnav also (in some more advanced fmc's)
The price between the two units should give you a hint of how much different they are.
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Originally posted by guitar_player guitar_player wrote:

After looking back at the pics online of ATRs, it seems that some of them have regular GPS devices.
Orlaam, FMC stands for flight management computer, which means it's not only for navigation. An FMC includes a GPS receiver(s) and is only part of its functionality. It's not only used for navigation but for flight planning (includes estimated air time, fuel usage, climb and descent management....) and links to the a/p for vnav also (in some more advanced fmc's)
The price between the two units should give you a hint of how much different they are.

 

Yeah, I know.  That's why I said they are different in other ways, but as far as waypoints go they are still designed to follow the same ones.  That was my only point.

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